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MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  RB5 286 on Sat Feb 05, 2011 3:20 am

seen this on Revolutions website and some1 on here just recently installing one



is it a case of simply fitting or do i have to get the geo sorted after installing it?
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  vulnax on Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:38 am

I fitted the STi one, it's just the 3 nuts off each strut top and fit the far, then screw up again.

As long as you dont bounce or move the car when the nuts are off then it should be fine.
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  sparkey on Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:00 am

its just straight bolt on no need to do whell alingment
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  RB5 286 on Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:00 am

cheers guys

(Glenn/Revolution)

any chance of a good deal on one of these please


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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  StrikE on Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:02 am

I would be up for one of these braces too if a deal could be struck Very Happy
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  Rob on Sun Feb 06, 2011 6:27 am

I'll have one of those too Cool

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  mickp on Sun Feb 06, 2011 9:35 am

Me too if the price is right.

Group buy discount Glen ??

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  Rb127 on Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:41 am

I'm up for a group buy too !!
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  RB5 286 on Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:42 pm

thats 5 already!!!

lol
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  555wrx on Mon Feb 07, 2011 5:30 am

Make that 6! Laughing
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  P4UL on Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:58 pm

I would be in for that, looks good

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  mickp on Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:16 pm

Any prices Glen ??

Sharpen that pencil mate bfore you respond Wink
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  RB5 286 on Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:16 pm

glenn is on holiday, spoken to Keith who is looking at a GB price with delivery to individuals
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  Rob on Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:38 pm

Started making my own Cool Got the Rings Cut for the strut towers just need a brace bar to run across and jobs sorted

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  mickp on Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:08 pm

Revolution not happy to take our pennies Shocked

Would have thought some one would have responded by now. Another day or two and i am off shopping round.
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  Abx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 4:39 am

Rob wrote:Started making my own Cool Got the Rings Cut for the strut towers just need a brace bar to run across and jobs sorted

Quite easy to make if you have the right tools to hand, made a nice one a few year back for my Nova SR, well my Dad did as he was a welder by trade, I just painted it red!

I'm about to order one off of ebay, should be about £60 all in, AFAIK they are all pretty much the same, only difference is a little branding!
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  RB5 286 on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:03 am

nope , nothing!!!

had another supplier looking into it and apparently there is a lot of interest in group buys best they could do was £156

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  urban on Tue Feb 15, 2011 5:34 am

We'll the scoobynet old timers may remember a guy from Prodrive that posted - Damian Harty
Here's what he had to say about them

"Strutbrace Q: There is an awful lot of mythology around this stuff that goes back to body-on-chassis beam-axled racers in the 20s - I'm not kidding. There are two effects that are important. Basically, the body structure is like a "fifth spring" between the front and rear suspension. If that spring is not stiff enough then the body relaxes out any redictribution of roll moment that the anti-roll bars were trying to make and so the car is unresponsive to handling balance tuning with springs and bars. However, once the body is "stiff enough" then making it stiffer offers no benefits. A good rule of thumb is that the torsional stiffness of the body (between suspension mount points) needs to be about ten times the roll stiffness of the stiffest suspension end (usually the front). If you chase the numbers through you end up with about 5-7 kNn/degree as the requirement for a body structure. Most modern monocoques comfortably exceed that and the Subaru with its bonded screens both ends does too. Somewhere I have a figure but can't recall it right now. Anything over 10 is good, 15-17 is current "state-of-the-art". So in that case, a strut brace does very little. The second effect is a bit more complicated. The body moves on the suspension but the wheel also moves on the tyre - the tyre is in many ways a "secondary" suspension system. That movement is partially controlled by the tyre and partially by the suspension damper and happens 10 to 15 times a second. The body is a flexible thing that has its own resonances and because of the shape of most cars at the front - they need a hole to put the engine in - it can get quite flexible in just about this frequency region. If the body goes flexible - goes into resonance - then the damper just moves with the body and can't contribute to the control of the tyre and in fact can do something bad called "mass loading" where the tyre is carrying not only itself but also part of the body _while it resonates_ (it's important to separate the static 'weight carrying' from dynamic things in your mind). In those cases, the strut brace can help because if it is a good design then it stiffens the front end usefully.

What all of the above means is that the effectiveness of a strut brace is strongly connected to the stiffness of your suspension. So for a Scoob that is fairly standard, the strut brace probably doesn't do a great deal, but as they get modified and stiffened the brace will contribute more to a well controlled feel over less-than-perfect surfaces.

The final point about strut braces relates to the emporor's new clothes - having bought a flash one, not many people will admit they can't really tell the difference.

Sorry for such a long answer but it isn't straightforward, especially when I'm denied my usual engineering shorthand of "Hz" and "modal damping" and so on..."

Albeit back then he was referring to a newage
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  Abx on Tue Feb 15, 2011 7:46 am

Interesting read, defo won't be shelling out on an expensive one then, the cheap one will lock the two together and do the job, not that it will be noticable!!
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  StrikE on Tue Feb 15, 2011 8:55 am

Well i was going to get one of these Perrin jobs as i thought they looked nice. Wonder if they would do a GB?

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  sparkey on Tue Feb 15, 2011 10:13 am

ive got a whiteline strut brace on mine
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  ghplumb on Tue Feb 15, 2011 1:58 pm

StrikE wrote:Well i was going to get one of these Perrin jobs as i thought they looked nice. Wonder if they would do a GB?

J-W-Racing



I would avoid the Perrin one mate !!!
I had one and spent hours !!Honestly hours trying to get it to fit i had it everyway possible and not a chance !!!i got rob to have a look also to see what he thought or if he could get it to fit .
It still would nt get anywhere near fitting ,
I got mine off TSL i think who gave me a refund after i sent them the pics of it in various positions on the car , if i can find the pics i will post them up
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  StrikE on Tue Feb 15, 2011 2:17 pm

WOW the power of forums again. Thanks for the heads up buddy as that could have been a costly effort.

Thanks Smile

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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  mickp on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:15 am

I am out !!!

Sorted through local supplier.
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Re: MY08 Summit Alloy Front Strut Brace

Post  sparkey on Wed Feb 16, 2011 5:43 am

what did u get mick ?

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