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New Tyres

Post  vulnax on Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:28 am

The 330S got treated to a new set of tyres on Wednesday, call it a royal wedding present!
The fronts were already worn and rotated to the rear a few months ago, and now n/s rear had a slow puntuce!

On-line places were rather expensive ( apart from Hometyre, a new outfit who fit mobile ) so went to the local high performance tyre place, Jeffreys HPT in Latchford, WArrington.

Tyres considered: 245/40x18 to start with.
Michelin Pilot Sport 3
Vredstein Ultrac Sessatras
Continental super contact 3
Pirelli Pzero Rosso
What Bridgestone (070 ) in this size
Goodyears?

Vredstein and Continental both out of stock and on back order .. meaning weeks to wait.
Not previously a fan of Michelin road tyres; Pzero said to be poor in wet grip, didn't have suitable Bridgestones.

Offered a Goodyear F1 Eagle Asymettric 2 at a reasonable price. This is a newly launched version of the F1 asyms of the other year.

So I went for the Goodyears.

After 100 miles they feel nice, light and precise steering, seem to grip fine in dry and damp but not pushed hard on them yet, and for those who recall the queries of loud whining/howling from the wheels ( which had several people get wheel bearings replaced under warranty ) these are as quiet as a mute in a deaf school!

Quite impressed so far.

245/40/18.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Rheid on Fri Apr 29, 2011 4:52 am

Good choice on tyres! The original F1As are/were a fantastic tyre and consistently outperformed pretty much everything else in every tyre test. The A2s are a big step forward again. Been cleaning up in recent tyre tests too.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  vulnax on Fri Apr 29, 2011 5:14 am

Cheers Neil, I wasn't aware they were now available again!

£155 a corner plus vat, Michelin were £176, so not bad price. Although £744 all in is more than I was expecting initially!!!


OEM tyres had lasted 13500 miles, of which probably half was dual carriage ways & motorways with half of the rest being 30mph towns and villages!!!


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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Mon May 02, 2011 12:27 pm

Rheid wrote:If you use 8.5" rim width with ET55 as a starting point (stock 330S and BBS wheel) then in order to run a 9" rim and retain the same clearance between inside of wheel and suspension etc, the 9" rim would need an offset of ET48/ET49. This would position the outside face of the wheel 12mm/13mm further out than for the 8.5" ET55 wheel.
So, a 9" rim with ET48 is equivalent to an 8.5" rim with ET42 in respect to the position of the outer face of the wheel. ET42 on an 8.5" rim is 'safe' on the STi hatch, there should be no rubbing or clearance issues. ET35 on an 8.5" rim is about the safe limit before mods to the bodywork are needed although you may still get some rubbing in certain circumstances.
Personally I wouldn't go bigger than 8.5" rim with 245 tyre. Just pick a wheel with lower offset to fill the arches although bear in mind that anything much lower than ET50 will affect the handling to a degree - does look good though!
Cheers, Neil

Thanks for the info Neil Smile Confirms what I thought.
Max I'm going for is 8.5 mainly to minimise pebble damage and possibility of fronts rubbing. Its quite tight (15mm) between inside tyre and strut with 18x8 ET55 so allowing about 6mm each side of the rim for 8.5 ET55, it should work OK.

Wow ! The 265's look a bit bigger than I'd go for Paul for optimum tyre performance. Probably the front on shot makes it difficult to see.
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Paul666 on Mon May 02, 2011 1:29 pm

StanS wrote:
Wow ! The 265's look a bit bigger than I'd go for Paul for optimum tyre performance. Probably the front on shot makes it difficult to see.
Nice P Coating Smile

I'll try to get some side and rear shot, can't say it has restricted the tyres performance as it sticks like sh#t to a blanket, a lot better than the previous Falkens!
Paul.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Rheid on Mon May 02, 2011 5:06 pm

StanS wrote:Max I'm going for is 8.5 mainly to minimise pebble damage and possibility of fronts rubbing. Its quite tight (15mm) between inside tyre and strut with 18x8 ET55 so allowing about 6mm each side of the rim for 8.5 ET55, it should work OK.

Stan, what wheels you got on at the moment that are 8x18 ET55?

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Tue May 03, 2011 3:33 am

I thought they were Speedline Turini 18x8 ET55, but just been told that if they are ET55 they are definitely 18x8.5 !!

Tight fit over calipers


They look set back quite a bit, but there is not that much space between tyre and arch at the front.




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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Rheid on Tue May 03, 2011 3:57 am

Nice wheel the Turini but I see what you mean about being set back a bit.

Just as a comparitor, the stock 17" STi wheel is 8" ET53 so your Speedlines are actually 2mm further in than those. I get why your keen to change!

Out of interest, what new wheels are you looking at?

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Tue May 03, 2011 4:33 am

2nd hand 18 x8.5 ET55 (ish) that fit over calipers, in good condition, possibly with tyres, with not too many spokes (for easy cleaning)that I like the look of ! Laughing
Not too much to ask !



Info re: Turismos

Originally they were18x8 ET55, but recently, in order to clear the big brake kits on the Hatch, they are now 18x8.5 ET52, which are still available in silver. The 18x8 ET55 are now only available in Anthracite.

Markings on spokes 1664BY07 = 18x8, ...BY10 = 18x8.5, so as my rims were bought in Feb09 they ARE probably 18 x 8 !!!

Thanks to Nick at Demon Tweeks for finding that out !


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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Tue May 03, 2011 8:09 am

Just had a wheel off. 07, so it is 18x8 !

Another mystery solved. I'll have a go at solving nuclear fusion now.
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Paul666 on Thu May 05, 2011 7:18 am

StanS wrote:Wow ! The 265's look a bit bigger than I'd go for Paul for optimum tyre performance. Probably the front on shot makes it difficult to see.
Nice P Coating Smile

Stan,
Better pic.



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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Thu May 05, 2011 11:30 am

I would never have guessed they were 265's. They look an excellent fit on the 8.5's! Very Happy Cool

Just fitted my 235 40 R888's onto my 8" and I can't really notice the difference in look (tread width, fitting to rim) to the 245 40 MichelinPS2 I just removed.
Another specsaver visit needed ?? Rolling Eyes

Still looking for some nice 18 x 8.5 ET55 (ish) if anyone knows any 2nd hand. Smile
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Paul666 on Thu May 05, 2011 12:07 pm

StanS wrote:I would never have guessed they were 265's. They look an excellent fit on the 8.5's! Very Happy Cool

A bit tight to fit but looks better than the 245, which offer nothing in rim protection and look undersized in my opinion.

StanS wrote:Just fitted my 235 40 R888's onto my 8" and I can't really notice the difference in look (tread width, fitting to rim) to the 245 40 MichelinPS2 I just removed.
Another specsaver visit needed ?? Rolling Eyes

The actual width of the tyre changes between sizes and companies, look at the Toyo site and checkout their widths against actual size, the T1-R 265/35ZR18 is 267mm but the 275/35ZR18 is only 271mm.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Abx on Sat May 07, 2011 5:17 am

Here is a profile pic for those that are interested of a 245 vred on an 8.5 rim.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Sat May 07, 2011 8:05 am

Hi Arron,
What rims are those & what ET ?

Nice lip of rubber on those to buffer the rim a bit.
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  sparkey on Sat May 07, 2011 9:27 am

i love speedline turinis some times wish i got them instead of rota force but it was down to getting right colour
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Abx on Sat May 07, 2011 9:37 am

Hi Stan

They are Turini's, seeing them on yours I had to have them!!!

I managed to source some in an ET of 35, really do help to fill out the arches!

Another side on shot with the old Dunlops, the lip on the Vreds does help to give a little more confidence near kerbs!

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Rheid on Sat May 07, 2011 10:38 am

I'd like to see what the new Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2s look like fitted.

Vulnax, any chance of a pic?

Cheers, Neil
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  vulnax on Sat May 07, 2011 3:38 pm


Should be able to do so, tomorrow!

Std 330S wheels with 245/40x18 tyres.

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Rheid on Sat May 07, 2011 5:00 pm

vulnax wrote:
Should be able to do so, tomorrow!

Std 330S wheels with 245/40x18 tyres.

Good man!

Incidently, how are they performing now you've got a few miles on them?

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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Sun May 08, 2011 1:29 am

Hi Abz
"They are Turini's, seeing them on yours I had to have them!!!" Laughing

Rim colour really suits your car !



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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  Tone Loc on Sun May 08, 2011 4:12 am

My OEM Dunlops are down to the wear indicator now so on the look out for tyres.... think i'm going to try Michelin PS3s, £355 fitted for a pair at Costco seems good value if anybody else is thinking of trying them (245/40R18s)
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  vulnax on Mon May 09, 2011 10:52 am

Rheid,

Pics of Goodyear F1 Eagle Asymetric 2 245/40 x 18 on std 330S 8.5?x18 rims, ET 55 ( or ET 53 ? )





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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  StanS on Mon May 09, 2011 12:07 pm

Look good - I want some !
I think I can see a spot of dust on your door .... Laughing

Reckon you'll need flaps, or resprayed sides Sad
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Re: Feedback wanted on new tyres for 18" wheels / hatch

Post  vulnax on Mon May 09, 2011 1:03 pm

Hi Stan,

Dust where Laughing Just a quick wash on sunday morning, rained loads since! Shine down to Jeffs Werkstat Acrylic Prime and Jett Trigger.


I think these stick out a bit less than the OEM Dunlop 600's? Certainly no more.
I do have some flaps but not sure if / how to fit them!

There's a bit of -ve camber there I think Exclamation


These tyres have a nice big rim protector which is useful as I have <cough> scuffed the odd one... potholes I think rather than kerbs.

So far after 100 miles or so in towns and dual carriage way, the tyres feel nice and light, turn well, work in rain too, and are damn quiet after the Dunlops!


Had a slight vibration on the steering, so they have been balanced twice so far, it's not gone yet.. comes in about 65 mph to ... so hope to dial that out.
Suspension is all PU at front and prodrive springs, so unlilely rubber bushed worn or loose, although will have a look in case something loose.

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