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Paulathome

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Normal or not

Post  Paulathome on Wed May 04, 2011 12:32 pm

After a months driving i have the following questions :

Steering feels quite light - normal/not ?
Ride is quite bouncy - normal/not ?
With full beans applied, there's some movement of the car on lift-off to change gear, most notable when cornering - normal/not ?

Any "big improvement for minimal cost" that you've made ?

It goes in for its first MOT tomorrow, a month early with instructions to find anything that I may be able to claim for under warranty.

Paul

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Re: Normal or not

Post  jaypSTI on Wed May 04, 2011 2:10 pm

Everything you say is normal unfortunately.
I had all of these characteristics changed by Litchfield Imports.
Check here http://litchfieldimports.co.uk/UK08performancepacks.asp
Even the fast road pack @ £295 would make a major difference.
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Re: Normal or not

Post  Paulathome on Thu May 05, 2011 10:50 am

What i figured the answer would be after some online reviews i found before buying the car.
Has anyone upgraded the suspension, if yes, what with, and what aspect of the above characteristics did it improve.

The litchfield fast road pack consists of an uprated rear anti roll bar and all wheel laser alignment, whiteline do one that seems to be well thought of for around £140 and i can get the alignment done locally at elitedirect. What improvement will i feel if i go down that route ?

Car sailed through its MOT which was nice , no advisements or comments from the tester.
Paul

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Re: Normal or not

Post  jaypSTI on Thu May 05, 2011 12:57 pm

Kitting the car out with whiteline bushes and front/rear arb's will certainly stiffen things up.
The power steering revalve that seems exclusive to licthfield seems to be the best way available to improve the steering feel.
Another way of increasing steering feel is to get coilovers with adjustable top mounts. You can then increase caster which gives a heavier feel to steering. I have AST coilovers with adjustable top mounts. This is not cheap but is by far my best handling mod.
The cheapest option would be to just get a set of prodrive springs. I can't comment on how that improves things. But after reading some of the more technical threads on the american forum iwsti.com, it seems just adding lowering springs can actually make handling worse.



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Post  A on Thu May 05, 2011 2:29 pm


What a Face

If I can remember... the 'unstable rear on the limit - cornering step out' is due to the floating rear suspension / subframe.

Solution is the Whiteline inserts - which are called " ________" , someone will remind me. Ties the back end together.

Front and rear ARB's from Whiteline will sort the roll without compromising the ride - mid settings.

Springs will firm it all up - I imported some Cobb Tuning springs from USA with minimal load increase +10% front & +15 % rear and an inch or so lower.

Ride is now firm but not jarring, and still a little comfort with no rolling rolling.

Obviously the ultimate is coilovers - if you love trackdays and live around perfect roads.

I'm SE London so speed bumps and pot holes rule - my desire was for Powerstation to help me sort the handling without going all out.

Changing all the bushes will feel incredible BUT hugely compromise the ride... If you can bear it then that's cool or else you'll lose your fillings...

Steering feel on the straight ahead is subjective...

BEST bang for your bucks is IMO the arbs and inserts - big big difference.

'WITH A PROPER 4 wheel computer GEO set up' (some places cannot do this).

But you need springs as well to complement both roadholding and 'looks'.

A


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Re: Normal or not

Post  Paulathome on Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:37 pm

To give me less roll and help to cure the "stepping out" on lift-off, i've decided to spend some money - around £500 on parts
your suggestions in order of importance please

Starting with a whiteline 22mm adj rear arb, do i need the droplinks as well, or does the arb come with them.
Which poly bushes or inserts do you recommend ? link please ?
Does anyone have a link (powerflex /whiteline ? ) to the poly inserts for the rear subframe thats been mentioned above ?

thanks
Paul

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Hmmh.

Post  A on Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:17 am


Dude...

Front and rear ARB's plus the 'positive traction kit' and some new springs (sharpen it up and improve on 'the dive') will cost you a little more than £500

I would forget the droplinks....

Then a decent 4 wheel computer set up - where are you near ?


I ordered the COBB springs from the USA plus the above and had it all fitted at Powerstation - I think it cost about £900 all in. Thats all parts and fitting and alignment.

Made a huge difference to the car. So much better looks, far superior handling, dramatically less roll - yet still a decent ride.


It was my criteria to PowerStation that the suspension was improved without destroying the ride.

The above was the conclusion.

You can spend £ on lots of other bits which will take a tenth or two off a lap time whilst slowly removing fillings on everyday driving.

If you're destined to be a trackday warrior then a full AST set up would be the way to go...


Otherwise enjoy...


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Post  A on Tue Oct 18, 2011 4:19 am


Paul...

Tyre pressures FRONT 36 REAR 34 ( Powerstation preferences.)

Getting these right makes a big difference also.

A


PS Not forgetting Powerstation did all the development work on the T20 loved by the EVO mag boys....
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Re: Normal or not

Post  Paulathome on Tue Oct 18, 2011 3:04 pm

thanks for replies,
think i'm gonna go for front & rear whiteline ARB, and the 'positive traction kit' bushes

regards
Paul

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